They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. I do. Her mother was married to my uncle. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Despite the new evidence and hypotheses, the courts have rejected all of Patricias bids for a new trial. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they broke up in 1989. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. You say by definition! "His wish is to attend a prearranged consultation in Dubai . Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. . Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. We lived close to one another. Dance defense. Patricia made daily phone calls every day but made no calls at all the day before, of and after Joannes murder as she was traveling and knew her phone could track her location. Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. Andrew F Katrinak was born on month day 1882, at birth place. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! Andrew J Katrinak, age 68, Drake, CO . They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. Hege described Rorrer as savvy and street-smart and similar to other horse lovers he knows. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. Jealousy was the motive. Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! Andrew described his existence with Joanne and Alex as a little Camelot., Ex-spouse off list. The two kept in touch by telephone, and in 1991, Rorrer briefly sought refuge at Katrinak's home in Catasauqua after being assaulted by another boyfriend. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. I dont think so. Sorry not sorry. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. Neighbors remember seeing her place the child on horses for short rides. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Her daughter, Andrea Bruner, 14, baby-sat for Rorrer's baby daughter last fall. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. Trash-talking ex. Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. 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Instead, she took the girl to Myers' stables just about every day. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. The entrance to the Lehigh County Courthouse at 455 Hamilton St. in Allentown is seen in November 2011. A-list trainer shares the ultimate do's and don'ts of workout etiquette - revealing why you should NEVER use a metal water bottle, Trump collaborates with January 6 prison choir in release of new single 'Justice for All' - which dropped ahead of his CPAC appearance, King Charles will offer Prince Harry and Meghan a Buckingham Palace apartment when they visit UK after kicking them out of Frogmore Cottage. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been imprisoned in Romania since late December on suspected rape and human trafficking offences. Some people are just monsters. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. A correction to the comment above. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? New state, new man. But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. It was Patricias hair no question. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. She took out the woman who replaced her. I comment on these forums because they are the only places offering the opportunity to, hopefully, bring awareness to those whore unfamiliar with this case and her unfair plight. Browse Locations. I want to know why no one has answered this question: if there was no root found on the hair clutched in Joanns hand how was the lab able to produce all those results that could not have been found without roots??? His wife's vehicle was discovered in a parking lot 100 yards away from their house. When the cheerleading coach broke the news to Katrina Kohel that she was the only one left on the cheer squad, Kohel was determined to compete anyway. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. The author that wrote the book on the Rutier case donates all the funds from that book to freeing Darlie Routier because the jury wasnt shown a lot of evidence of the medical issues Darlie suffered. Rorrer's attorney, Bill Fritz of Lexington, refused to comment on the case. And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. All Rights Reserved. Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! She and Andrew Katrinak shared a house in Salisbury Township in the mid-1980s, when he was a self-employed contractor and she was a real-estate agent. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. Incriminating words. He added: No official diagnosis has been confirmed and he is in good shape and is staying strong. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. You have permission to edit this article. I dont even know its Christmas.. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. Am I missing something? This woman was obsessed and jealous. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Tate reportedly had medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition before arrest, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Andrew Tates team claims he has a dark spot, most likely a tumour. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. Deal refused. Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in, Please refresh your browser to be logged in, Isabel Oakeshott terminates interview after clashing with presenter over Hancock leak.